Category: the Rant Board
I think that people who post illegal stuff about taking illegal drugs and who don't adhear to the terms of service on the zone should be automattically banned.
The reason I say this is because I believe in obaying rules, and I think that rules should always be followed.
I have obayed the terms of service, and I will always listten to terms of service.
I think they should a term to service to ban obnocous people who insist in the first five minutes on the zone that they will become part of the staff. Anyway yes rules are there for a reason, but unless everyone reports every little thing they see what can you expect to be done? Should there be a bot that bans someone every time they say crack, pot, puff puff, kill, minor, sex with dogs, and of course your phone number because that would amuse me? Anyway I think you got my point. See a problem get proof and report it.
I'll report it all right.
When I did report such abuse the person who I told this to told me to grow up. Yes Raymond they should be band. Candy yeah they should have such a bot. I've seen many people talk about drug use here and make racial remarks.
freedom of speach my dears. Of course if someone is breaking the terms of service they should be reported and banned accordingly, but this place is all about freedom of speach, and there needs to be a little bit of give and take. It is very difficult to sensor everything that is said on this site and I personally think the admins and CL's do a good job, but lets be objective. This is a multinational multiracial place, and what some people might find offensive, others might not. You just need to bare that in mind.
are you bitching about the sex grafiti board again? Hey, don't be mad just cause you can't get any
I agree with Noyzey.
I figure it's j-squared's zone and his to mediate as he sees fit. If I don't like what goes on here I'll find another place to go.
However, rant away, it's your right to do so. They call that "free speech".
Bob
Thank you for saying that.
Well I for one think it should be sensored. Cala your comment made no sinse to me. I think it should be on the rant board. To the first poster there should be a place for just us Christians. I think I found such a place. I found it on this site it's called the Relm I signed up for it tonight. I'll let you know if I like it or not.
there is a place for sensorship and a place for all things non sensored. i think sensored stuff goes in safe haven and religious stuff goes in the religious boards doesn't it?
and hope, I was commenting on the fact that he made a post on the sex board, which I'm sure you don't read, about how it's bad.
There is a place for Christians and other religions. It's called Religion Topics. If you don't like the stuff written here, quit reading it. How many more times!
There are a few things I don't get, maybe because I'm stupid, I don't know, but here goes:
Why do people always want to re-invent the wheel?
In all honesty, what's the point of this topic, please help me, I can't seem to grasp it.
If someone does not adhear to the terms and service on this website, that user is warned, and if caught again, banned, and that my friends, in accordance with the terms and service of this website, not put down by me, but by the people who actually own this website.
As for the wining about the Christian stuff, as many people have said about a zillion times before, there are a specific category for religion related topics, to which you can post at your heart's content.
Secondly, you might want to post topics such as this under the Rant Board (where it is now), not the Rave Board.
I have a question, and perhaps this is not the place for it but I don't feel energetic enough to create a topic of its own, so here goes.
Concerning "religion topics". If I believed in Satan worship, which I don't, wouldn't that be the place for me to post something about it?
I'm just curious.
Bob
where do I go so I can sign up as well?
I also feel that people also shouldn't bash people who are christians.
Nobody bash people because they are christians. People will bash christians who say that they are christians in every sentense they right. If you are a christian show it with your behaviour and with being nice. Not by advertising it. And b the way i am christian as well but by saying it i don't become any better christian. This is my oppinion.
I also have the right to have sarcastic people kicked off the website.
You want people kicked off the website? You don't put your christianity in practice lol. Where is your forgivness? That's why it is different saying that you are a christian and actually being a christian. I would rather see the second. And lol Bob. Good question. Some people would see it as your own religion so it would feed the board and some others as antireligion so they wouldn't want it there. Interesting question lol.
I am a christian, but I believe in disiplin as well.
The way I was raised, you can speak your mind, just as long as you are respectful.
And also, people who aren't disiplined need to be.
"a place for just us Christians".
What is it that makes the "christians" on this site more special that they should need a place just for them? Can we then also have a place for the muslems/hindus/atheists/satanists? And while we're at it can we have one for the drug users and the bigats and the homophobes ... shall I go on?
That would be great, but I don't know if they would make a place.
hey now i want my own place just for blondes while we're at it.
that would be cool.
Can I have my own website? Just for me? Please?
Can we have a board for us Scottsmen bagpipers? Oh that would be awesome!
ok, while we're on the subject of christians. can't you be a decent person without having a label? I am of the undecided class, am I then not worthy of speaking my views. here, I will speak my views then. I disagree with those who wear their religion like a badge, it's awful and seems to make those who are christian or wahtever religion they may bee who don't flag their religion up every five seconds, seem less wworthy of their beleif in the eyes of those who do. I am sorry to say this, but so called religious people have been responsable for more bloodshed over the centuries than almost any other group. sorry for going off topic here.
I compleetely agree. It is not the lable that makes somebody a nice person but their actions.
I'm usually not the one to go in for quoting Bible verses, but since it's sunday, I'll speak to the Christians in a language they can understand. I'd like to remind all of you that Christ cautioned us to be "in the world, but not of it." Therefore, we must learn to simply detach from and ignore the bits of the world of which Christ would not approve. We must not sequester ourselves. This clammoring for a special, separate board for Christians sounds like the whining of a bunch of extremely frightened people who haven't the wit nor the guts to deal with life's difficult, unpleasant issues.
Thank you Julia for your Bible verse. That was beautiful. I agree with you Raymond. To Claire, I also have Jewish friends. You forgot to ask for their separate board as well. To the undecided person look at the Muslims who high jacked the planes during 9 11 Christians have never killed people. You are thinking about the middle ages. Raymond I went to that other web site it's for evey one not just us Christians. It's just some goffy chat thing.
People like Raylo will never be in positions of power because it's as clear as the nose on everybody's face that they want to bully and censor and push around anyone whose ideas they dislike or disagree with or they just don't like their style of expression. They are nothing but bullies and little Fascist pig dictators in the making. As for bashing, let's make something clear. You can say that Christians or atheists or anyone should not be bashed until the cows and the dinosaurs come home, but you are only stating how you wish things were. Here's how things are. Everybody gets bashed, and that's part of freedom of speech. Freedom of speech does not mean that a person can say whatever they wish and never be challenged, questioned, criticized or disagreed with. One person has freedom of speech so they can say that all Christians are nothing but nuts who believe in invisible friends, and another person who disagrees has the very same right to say they disagree and hopefully explain why they disagree. Freedom of speech has more to do with criticizing your government without fear of being shot by the secret police and has not much to do with just normal conversations. So unfortunately I guess all of us are going to have to employ such silly old-fashioned and nerdy ideas such as fairness, good sportsmanship, politeness, civility, respect, and all that other boring stuff.
Christians have never killed people?
That's a load of bullshit. What do you think the Catholics did to people who went against the beliefs of the church in the Renaissance period, (to mention but just one such incident)?
You live in a fool's paradise.
And for those "christians" who like to pass judgment on other people so quickly and with ease, just the following, from the Bible:
"First take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."
weren't the crusades a blood thirsty period too q? and the crusades were started by cristians weren't they?
I agree with the last two. Christians like everyone else are humans and they do mistakes. Only god is perfect. So by saying that christians are better than anyone else it is very wrong.
As I said in my previous post, the example I refered to, is just one of many.
Also agreed with Nikos here.
wow....just, wow. I'm shocked.
Hope, ... wow. lol
"To the undecided person look at the Muslims who high jacked the planes during 9 11 Christians have never killed people.".
I think you'll find that most true muslems would distance themselves from those that carried out such acts in the name of their religion.
Just as most true christians would distance themselves from so-called christians that spout such bigatted crap.
waw! I don't even know what to say. yes, I am a christian, but don't shove it down someone's throat like that! that's all I'm gonna say, because well, how am I supposed to respond?
To the initial poster:
The terms of service states material that is not tolerated, part II as:
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• Advocating illegal acts, including: child pornography, software piracy, manufacture and use of controled substances, etc.
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Just talking about illegal drugs is not advocating the use of such drugs, only a specific post or quick note encouraging people to take drugs would fall under this category, not merely mentioning the effects of such an action or the drugs in general.
Another thing that is banned by said terms of service is the posting of spam through boards or quick notes, in section 3 it says specifically
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• Sending spam or chain letters in public or private communications
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This morning I saw pilsbury... repeatedly post bible verses that were not part of the conversation and therefore would clearly be considered spam. I do not request him to be banned and his religious postings don't bother me, sometimes the verses are interesting and I am Christian, although very moderate and not the kind who forces his beliefs down your proverbial throats.
But it enforces the verse already quoted, the Christians on this site are asking for all sorts of people to be removed from this site for allegedly breaking the terms of service whilst they clearly do so themselves. I suggest a good session of plank removal.
Its all about freedom of speech. If your against sex, jokes,ETC, don't read those topics.
Q sorry I take offense at one of your post. Having been brought up Catholic. To the other person, my friend who posted this isn't a bully, I support him. Claire sorry I don't have any Muslim friends, I'm only going on what the news has said and what family and friends have said. Thank you B for getting this post back on track, I diverted it and so did others. To the person who wrote something about invisible friends I didn't get it, but it was funny. Getting back to you B Adam emailed me the Bible berse in my Zone email and I loved it, I told him I would've supported him 100 % He said he sent it out this morning and everyone flipped. I told him I wasn't shocked. He said the Zone needs to be cleaned up and yes he has my support.
Hope, you can take as much offense as you want, fact is, the Catholics has a history of torturing and eventually killing anyone who dared to disagree with their beliefs, especially during the earlier centuries..
i think hope is asking for a eutopian setup here. sorry you can't have this. the world is not like that.
So, you take offence at the catholics and their murderous ways, but it's ok to refer to muslems in the same way? do you not think that Muslems might read these topics and perhaps take offence too?
Bit of a double standard me thinks.
Do you also take offence at the fact that paedofilia is rife among catholic priests and that the church has done its best over the past years to cover it up?
As for Adam preaching the bible, that is his right of course, but it is mine, and anyone else's right on here to say that we don't want to be preached to. Would you be equally happy if someone started sending you verses from the quran? Given your previous stance on Islam I would imagine not.
Hope, if I understand "spam" correctly (besides being a rather questionable caned meat, popular in Hawai) it is unwanted mail or messages being sent to one repeatedly. This is banned by the site's terms of service. Raylo clearly is not obeying the site's rules and he claims to be a big fan of rules in his original post. The web site owners decide on the rules, hence he is out of line.
It is not his job "cleaning up" the site and him thinking his devine purpose overrides the rules set by the side is a worrying trend. The suicide bombers thought their religious conviction overrode all international conventions, sure it's an extreme example but the same general principle applies here.
cheers
-B
Oh, wo, hope, could you be any more ignorant?
Why don't you stop being a student of the "guy on the corner told me" university and actually start looking up some of this stuff for yourself?
The truth is is that the Arab world are very desperate and very afraid. Desperate, because the americans are giving them little choice in many cases but to support radical groups who have the power to actually fight the americans who shouldn't be in their territory in the first place. Afraid, because, even in western countries, arabs are persecuted daily. In my own country, Arabs were targeted in the recent riots not that long ago in sydney, and in school, arab children have become targets of bullying and other nasty childish victemisations. People who are of Arab origins are finding it harder to get along in the western world because of this unfair stareotype placed on them by ignorant americans. and i hate to say it, but it's spreading.
Only the other day I was in a taxy with a guy who began to spout all kinds of crap how Muslims should all be sent to detention camps, or out of australia and that they were all evil. I reminded him that I was half arab myself and he shut up fairly quickly.
Your opinions, hope, have no validity if you simply go along with what your friends and family have told you. don't you think there's a slight possibility that they might be wrong? or even still, shock horror, you might have opinions of your own that might differ from theirs?
As for the first poster, you have no right to enforce a religious viewpoint on the general population of the zone. If you try, you're no better than the inquisition and you're simply trying to silence things that don't agree with your narrow view of the world. The CL's work hard to ensure that the rules are obeyed, but as the site disclaimer says, they're not our parents.
Oh, and while requests are going, can I have a communist corner? I'm sick of people hacking on me for my beliefs. *waves red flag proudly*
OK, I've had it. I have truly had it. I just don't know how I can survive another day being put upon by anyone whose values or point of view I disagree with. I do not want my own bulletin board, website, or corner. I want a whole internet all to myself and all those who are exactly like me. And if I don't get it right now, I'll kick and scream and then I'll hold my breath until I turn blue unless I get what I want! Do you hear me? Give me my own goddamn internet and give it to me right fucking now! Mine, mine, mine! Hahahahahaha, with tongue planted firmly in cheek if you don't get sarcasm.
I love sarcasm. lol The world's not a perfect place, and that's part of life. Deal with it! sheesh!
Oh, my, god! can you say babies? wawawawawawawawa. Let me see if I can spell this out to you people who just do not understand. This is a websight, run by J-j, Chris N, and the cl's. Not, all you crack-pot hard core Christians who want to "clean up" the sight. If you want a totally Christian websight, then go create on, and let the rest of us have free speach. okay, yeah, rules are there to be followed, I don't not agree with that, and people should be kicked off for not following them, but that is not! for just anyone to decide. You can't just randomly go kicking people off for not having the same points of view as you. That, is most definitly not! Christian.
If you were a true Christian, rather then a keyboard one, then you'd stop trying to shove it where it isn't wanted. I was around at the time that doe boy was sending that "spam". Only, he went one step more with me, cause I have him on ignore. Now, correct me someone if I'm wrong, but isn't having someone else log in to the sight just to send someone who is ignoring you the same thing as they are sending everyone else, against the rules as well? Isn't that like (this is just an example) if say I was to put Hope on ignore for something like totally annoying me, and then she turns around and asks someone else to find out why I did it?
in post 17, Raylo said....
"I also have the right to have sarcastic people kicked off the website. "
You have the same rights that everyone else has on this site and that is simply to be here or not to be. You have no right to kick anyone off or to say what they can or can't do. If this site offense your moral sensibilities, then don't come back. If you can accept that people are all different, with different thoughts, religions, past times, likes and dislikes, etc etc etc then stay and have a good time.
I have yet to hear anyone insult someone for being Christian but I have heard several self proclaimed Christians make comments about how this or that person is wrong for what they say or think or do. "Judge not lest ye be judged"
I am a Christian and one day I will be judged but I guarantee it won't be by anyone on the zone.
For those of you with a banning fettish, here follows a quote from the Terms of Service, as found on this web site:
"3. Harassment of other users is not tollerated. This includes, but is not limited to, the following:
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• repeatedly annoying other users after they have requested such annoyance to sease
• Threats against other users
• The spreading of personal information
• Sending multiple or excessively large quicknotes which are designed to annoy or crash others' computers
• Sending spam or chain letters in public or private communications"
Take note especially of the following 2 lines:
• repeatedly annoying other users after they have requested such annoyance to sease
• Sending spam or chain letters in public or private communications"
To put it in context, or just in case you don't get it:
If you keep on sending Bible verses to other users despite the fact that said users asked you to cease doing it, this is nothing else but breaching one of the Terms of Service, and will be delt with accordingly.
I thank you.
For those so-called Christians who have a holier-than-thou attitude here are a couple of words of wisdom:
"If they strike thee on the cheek, turn the other face."
And:
"may you get your wish for heaven sooner than later, and leave the rest of us alone."
Bob
did you make that up, Bob?
Actually, yes and no.
"If they strike thee on the cheek, turn the other face." was quoted in Sol Bello's Hertzog as a piece of grafette that the main character sees on the streets of New York.
But, I will take dubious credit for the quote "may you get your wish for heaven sooner than later, and leave the rest of us alone." It just seemed appropriate.
Bob
Loui I'm so sorry that happened to you. To Claire, Q and to you again Loui I did some research, I learned that Muslims are peaceful but they do have fundialmentelist Muslims. Hanif asked me to ask my Jewish friend if I was wrong I did when she got off of work. She said yes. My best friend Maria has even said I was wrong and it was unChristian of me to say what I said. Claire I would like to see some ve4rses from the Curan so feel free to send them to me. Yes I think if a Muslim person saw what I wrote they would be offended. I know I need to grow up Mom is always telling me this. In fact I hope God will give me a Muslim friend.now
well, at least you can see now that you're ignorance shows through to us all...
Selena Fan it takes a mature person to recognize when they have acted out of ignorance or immaturely. So, welcome to maturity,.
Bob
Hope, you really do need to be careful what you say, or in this case write. If you can't back something up, either say so or don't say it at all, even if your not sure of what your writing about. If you want to be seen as a mature woman, then act like one, and resurch before speaking, and by resurch I don't just mean getting someone else to do it for you, I mean actually looking it up yourself if you can. that's what surch engines are for. That way, you can read the information yourself, and make up your own mind about something. sorry to go off topic.
i actually agree with most of the posts on here.
Wow! I've never read a long topic like this all the way through, but it was interesting. I've found most of the people on here to be tollerant, but of course, there are those who are not. I think people need to understand the difference between casual chat and joking and seriously causing trouble. Some people take things way too much to heart. I mean, I'm sure I can be annoying at times, but fortunately, no one has banned me. It's human nature for people to disagree on various things, to debate and to question. That's what my religion teaches anyway.
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